Re: 2119bis

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On Sep 1, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Donald Eastlake wrote:

> I do not believe there is any need to change RFC 2119.

+1

Bob


> 
> Thanks,
> Donald
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> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Scott O. Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I've been traveling so have not had a chance to do anything but watch
>> the discussion on a RFC 2119 update.
>> 
>> a few thoughts
>> 
>> 1/ I am far from convinced that there is a need to update RFC 2119
>>      there is a bug in the boilerplate (as has been mentioned)
>>      and some people seem to have a hard time understanding what
>>      (to me) seem like clear descriptions of (for example) MUST &
>>      SHOULD - but the issues do not seem serious enough to warrant
>>      replacing what is, basically, a simple dictionary & usage
>>      constraint
>> 
>> 2/ it seems like a very Bad Idea to move 2119 to historic- we move
>>     RFCs to historic when no one uses them or when they are a Bad
>>     Idea in light of updated technology - I do not think that makes
>>     much sense in this case - in addition it makes the status of RFCs
>>     that have a normative reference to a historic document a bit
>>     funky - if an update is actually needed there is no reason that
>>     I can come up with that it could not just be that -- an update
>> 
>> 3/ I doubt that I'll ever catch up with Postel as the most referenced
>>     RFC author so that is not a consideration (for me)
>> 
>> I wrote RFC 2119 (most using text from RFC 1122) because people were
>> using MUST without saying what they meant, an update, if people think
>> that one is actually needed, will serve that purpose as well as 2119 has.
>> 
>> When I posted the original ID it was pointed out that I should also
>> address when such terms should be used (i.e. try to limit the use to
>> where it actually made sense protocol-wise) - I tried to do that but
>> that part may not have been as successful as it might have been - any
>> update might try to be clearer in this area that RFC 2119 is.
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
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