Re: 2119bis

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I do not believe there is any need to change RFC 2119.

Thanks,
Donald
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 Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
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On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Scott O. Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I've been traveling so have not had a chance to do anything but watch
> the discussion on a RFC 2119 update.
>
> a few thoughts
>
> 1/ I am far from convinced that there is a need to update RFC 2119
>      there is a bug in the boilerplate (as has been mentioned)
>      and some people seem to have a hard time understanding what
>      (to me) seem like clear descriptions of (for example) MUST &
>      SHOULD - but the issues do not seem serious enough to warrant
>      replacing what is, basically, a simple dictionary & usage
>      constraint
>
> 2/ it seems like a very Bad Idea to move 2119 to historic- we move
>     RFCs to historic when no one uses them or when they are a Bad
>     Idea in light of updated technology - I do not think that makes
>     much sense in this case - in addition it makes the status of RFCs
>     that have a normative reference to a historic document a bit
>     funky - if an update is actually needed there is no reason that
>     I can come up with that it could not just be that -- an update
>
> 3/ I doubt that I'll ever catch up with Postel as the most referenced
>     RFC author so that is not a consideration (for me)
>
> I wrote RFC 2119 (most using text from RFC 1122) because people were
> using MUST without saying what they meant, an update, if people think
> that one is actually needed, will serve that purpose as well as 2119 has.
>
> When I posted the original ID it was pointed out that I should also
> address when such terms should be used (i.e. try to limit the use to
> where it actually made sense protocol-wise) - I tried to do that but
> that part may not have been as successful as it might have been - any
> update might try to be clearer in this area that RFC 2119 is.
>
> Scott
>
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