On Jul 1, 2011, at 12:59 PM, John Leslie wrote: > Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Jul 1, 2011, at 4:48 AM, John Leslie wrote: >> >>> mail.ietf.org[64.170.98.30] got listed on SORBS for spamming. >>> >>> It's not that hard to get off... Fix it! >> >> >> It's also not that hard not to use poorly-managed blacklists. Just sayin'.... > > I'm _really_ poor at flame-wars, but Paul is begging here... > > It's exceptionally hard for folks to avoid poorly-managed blacklists > when the incoming-email setup isn't under their control. (Not true for > me, of course, nor for my customers if they think to ask.) > > IMHO, it's entirely reasonable to use even poorly-managed blacklists > as input to spam-assassin. And it's not up to _you_ to say what the > scoring algorithm should be for one of my customers. blacklists are the email version of terrorism, holding people's email service hostage in exchange for arbitrary tribute. Keith _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf