+1. Very strongly. Whether the logistics of space and times could be worked out or not, poster sessions strike me as a really bad idea and Fred has summarized at least most of the reasons. If we had a high barrier to posting I-Ds, it might be different. But we don't. john --On Monday, January 10, 2011 14:38 -0800 Fred Baker <fred@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Jan 10, 2011, at 5:56 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > >> You can go, read the poster and formulate opinions and >> questions independently of anyone else, including the author. >> If there is a time when the author is supposed to be present, >> you can then go back and clarify any issues. You can't >> establish any consensus this way, but it can be efficient at >> resolving issues. > > I'm attaching a chart that may be useful in this discussion. > Using the rsync-able directory of all IETF ID's since 1992 > (btw, I don't believe the database before about 1996, but 14 > years is still interesting data), I did a brief scan of the > arrival of drafts to the Internet Draft directory. The blue > line shows the arrivals by month; the red bar graph tries > (somewhat crudely) to aggregate drafts-by-IETF-meeting. > > I'm envisioning the process and requirements of the poster > sessions. In terms of process, today if I post a -00 draft to > a working group, I can generally get discussion during the > coming IETF meeting. What I think this suggests is that > instead I would show a poster at the coming meeting and get > working group discussion the meeting following. I'm not sure I > like that implication. > > I'm also thinking about the implications of 500-or-so posters. > In terms of simple floor space, if we presume a poster and the > conversation in front of it occupy a 3 meter-by 3 meter (10' X > 10') space, we need 4500 square meters or 50,000 square feet > of floor space to park them in. Time-wise, we need to assume > that 1/3-to-1/2 of people who attend an IETF meeting will, > instead of chairing or presenting in sessions, be out standing > by their posters - and not wandering around looking at other > posters. The mechanics look a little daunting. > > Personally, call me stuck-in-the-mud, but this isn't an > academic conference in which grad students are advertising for > a professor that might be interested in mentoring them or a > sponsor might fund their research. This is an SDO, and > internet drafts are what any other SDO calls "contributions" > or "work in progress". I would far rather have people who ant > to talk about something contribute an internet draft on their > topic, and talk with other people about their ideas - whether > on working group lists or other places. For those of us that > *do* participate, it seems to mostly work. > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf