Firstly, I agree: as a general rule, to get official floor space of any kind at the IETF venue, you SHOULD have posted a draft. If there is no draft, that is exactly when you need a bar BOF. (Complicated joke about the height of the bar for a bar BOF, and the drafts to be drunk, goes here.) Second, a number of operators' meetings have a session for "lightning talks" with minimal formality. But in practice, we have that at most Area Meetings - post a relevant draft, ask the ADs for a 5 minute slot, and you usually get it. So I'm not sure that we have a gap in our options. I'm more likely to read a draft with an interesting title than to walk around reading hard-copy posters. Regards Brian Carpenter On 2011-01-07 09:16, Worley, Dale R (Dale) wrote: > ________________________________________ > From: Sam Hartman [hartmans-ietf@xxxxxxx] > > I think the bar of producing an internet draft is low > enough. Regardless of what mechanisms we adopt to give people a chance > to try and sell their drafts, I think it is critical that we require the > drafts to be written. > ________________________________________ > > Actually, the bar for writing an I-D is near zero, so it should not be a barrier to presenting > any idea, no matter how half-baked. A more significant effect is that an I-D is in text form > rather than poster form so it tends to direct the writer to a more thought-through presentation. > > But most importantly, an I-D is globally available and globally announced, whereas a poster > session at an IETF meeting would be inherently limited to those physically present, which is biased > toward frequent attendees, those with sponsorship from large organizations, and those from the > developed world. Historically, the IETF has tried to limit biases in favor of those groups. > > Dale > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf