I guess the chinese (and other affected nationalities) can speak for themselves, but as far as I know it is not that easy to get a US visa - even with company backup etc. I have never heard about people having problems getting a chinese visa, but maybe such problems exist also. Personally I don't care that much where the meetings take place - I am more interested WHEN they take place. For me it is the PEOPLE that make a meeting good or bad - not the location. There are people working in much worse conditions than we are, and still they manage to do a great job. Regards, Christer > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Yoav Nir > Sent: 6. syyskuuta 2010 10:06 > To: IETF-Discussion list > Subject: RE: Optimizing for what? Was Re: IETF Attendance by continent > > True. > > But the visa issues seem to be the worst part of any US IETF. > Travel, food and finding a hotel are typically much easier in > most US venues then European venues. > > People from Europe, Japan, Australia, and some other > countries don't need a visa at all to go to an IETF meeting > in the US. People from China, India and the other countries > are generally backed by employers, who can vouch for their > travelling "on business", and generally should not have any > trouble obtaining the US visa. > > I would go so far as to say that getting a US visa seems > easier than getting one to China. Who are the people for whom > it's easier to visit a European country than it is to visit the US? > > On balance, I think US venues are generally better suited, > and lead to less angst than either European or Asian venues. > Even if they're in a cold place like Minneapolis. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Christer Holmberg > Sent: 06 September 2010 08:17 > To: Andrew G. Malis; Glen Zorn > Cc: Randall Gellens; IETF-Discussion list; Hadriel Kaplan > Subject: RE: Optimizing for what? Was Re: IETF Attendance by continent > > > Hi, > > I assume Hawaii has the same visa issues as the rest of US... > > Regards, > > Christer > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf