I was in Paris and was certainly well aware of the issues with regards to theft. Personally, I imagine that emotionally and physically recovering from the theft of personal property (as frustrating and as upsetting as I know I would find that to be) is significantly less traumatic than recovering from a physical, in particular sexual assault. Again, the female perspective has it's own set of issues that has the potential to make a physical attack much more life impacting than it does a male, which might be why there seems to be difficulty in understanding the point I raise. I already have two kids (now teenagers, which may be why I seem to be able to debate ad naseum on topics such as this) and I really don't want to have to deal with a third (or the alternative choice relate thereto which is a choice I personally could not make). Mary. On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Joel Jaeggli <joelja@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 8/29/10 2:03 PM, Mary Barnes wrote: >> Personally, I don't routinely travel to places where my safety is put >> at risk. The first and most important step for self defense is >> avoidance. My participation in the meeting precluded me from avoiding >> the situations. >> >> My point overall is actually quite simple - none of these things are >> issues if the meetings are held in larger international cities or >> secondary cities where everything is nearby. > > I recommend you scroll back through your meeting archives to Paris, > reread, and reconsider that statement in light of events as they transpired. > > Tegarding the incident of property crime in paris vs mastricht. > > I lost equipment out of the venue during the week of setup in the > netherlands, this a rare but not entirely unexpected event, normally we > expect san francisco for example to be a bigger problem in this regard > (and it was during the last nanog meeting held there). mitigating this > exposure entirely is infeasible, but if the attrition rate exceedes our > ability to replace it then we have a problem. That didn't happen, > observably, once the particpants descended en masse the local > troglodites went back to their caves. > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf