There is no visa waiver program for China, at least not for any of the countries relevant to this discussion. You need a visa. Getting a tourist one is "easier" in the sense that it requires less paperwork and documentation. For a visit of duration ~ one week or so, there should be no issues with getting a tourist visa. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@xxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Mary Barnes wrote: > U.S. customs is the least of my worries in this situation. In the 15 years > that I've been attending these sorts of meetings, I've never needed a visa > of any sort ahead of time. > > Can you please point me to an official website that suggests that there is a > visa waiver program for us attending the IETF meeting in China? > > Mary. > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Behcet Sarikaya > <behcetsarikaya@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > > > I agree with Fred. > > > > Many countries we go to attend IETF meetings would probably require > > "business" > > visa but we go there as tourists on a visa waiver program. On the way back > > as > > far as US customs are concerned the purpose is business but US customs > > never > > asks why you did not get a business visa. > > > > Regards, > > > > Behcet > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: todd glassey <tglassey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: ietf@xxxxxxxx > > > Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 12:38:00 PM > > > Subject: Re: Tourist or business visa from US? > > > > > > On 8/24/2010 8:24 AM, Fred Baker wrote: > > > > In the many times I have visited China, I have gotten a business visa > > once, > > >and it was seriously not worth the effort. > > > > > > > > I plan to get a tourist visa. > > > > > > Except that now the PRC is looking at the purpose of your trip and that > > > is to develop intellectual properties so this is not a personal but > > > specifically a business trip. > > > > > > Does Cisco's legal department condone that Fred? > > > > > > Todd Glassey > > > > > > > > On Aug 24, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > > > > > > > >> Is there a consensus that a tourist visa is sufficient to attend the > > > >> IETF from the US? > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> Andy > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Ietf mailing list > > > >> Ietf@xxxxxxxx > > > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Ietf mailing list > > > > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3091 - Release Date: > > 08/23/10 > > >23:34:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > //----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. > > > If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the > > > addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based > > > on this message or any information herein. If you have received this > > > message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail > > > and delete this message. > > > > > > Thank you for your cooperation. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Ietf mailing list > > > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ietf mailing list > > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf