the only hard issue i have heard is log access and retention. it is clear radius logs, the only logs being used (aside from landings and take-offs of black helicopters), should be destroyed at the end of the meeting. but should they be wiped more frequently? their intended use is solely for debugging for users who have problems authenticating. will folk be happy with not being able to check "yesterday it worked, today not?" if so, ops can destroy them nightly or more frequently. note that the ops group has no direct need for logs. it's the users who we presume want any authentication problems which they might have to be debuggable. randy _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf