On Jul 1, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
You wrote: "It is clear to people unfamiliar with the IETF that IETF meeting participants means people who have registered for the IETF meeting." Correct.
... and their accompanying persons (who can also get a slip). Regards Marshall
"I have been told that an IETF meeting does not have security guards at the door to verify who has a badge to determine whether the person is registered for the meeting. If someone walks into an IETF meeting, the person can enjoy the cookie for free and even provide a contribution at the mic. The person enjoys the same privileges as people who have paid for meeting attendance fee." This is also true, but it is clearly not DESIGNED to let anyone participate for free in our meetings. I'd call this a "side-effect" that, if abused, would be remedied with exactly the kind of guards and badge checkers you envision. Participation in our PROCESS is open and can be achieved through mailing lists. Participation in our meetings has a real cost associated with it regardless of how it is funded. You are well aware of the fellowship program for example. "The fashion in the IETF is to have an open network. There isn't any admission control and credentials are not required to enjoy the benefit of free and full Internet access. The IETF may run out of cookies; it never runs out of bandwidth." I would have to disagree. You were probably not even born when we had real terminal rooms with real terminals and computers and mean looking security guards who very much did check badges. As stewards of the IETF meeting resources, I would say that it is perfectly reasonable for the IAOC (or the local host) to control access to <insert resource> to only meeting participants. There is no principal difference between cookies and network here as far as I am concerned. And as others have pointed out, access control to WiFi networks is the norm rather than the exception, even when they are "free". Cheers, Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@xxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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