On Fri, 7 May 2010, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > I think that, as a temporary measure to deal with the current > experiment, the IESG taking a decision is acceptable. Excluding > day-pass-only people is completely defensible because the rules were > written in a period when day passes didn't exist. So nobody who was > then eligible is made ineligible by this decision. (It is not > relevant that someone "would have" used a day pass had it previously > been available: we do not make rules for every possible world, only > for the one we're in.) The converse is also true ... if this policy had been previosly stated, and I felt a need to stack the nomcom with myself, an otherwise unqualified candidate, I could have decided to pay the full registration instead of the day pass and attended exactly the same IETF functions. I just don't see the difference between being dedicated enough to the IETF to purchase a day-pass and attend one day plus the added main tent activities and 4 meetings ago purchasing a full registration and attending exactly the same number of meetings and main tent functions. The RFC has already been cited and it just says attend. A day pass consitutes attending ... changing the english definition after the fact is changing the rules after the fact. And a change which really says nothing about an individual's ability to provide useful input in the nomcom process. The appropriate statement from the IESG at this time is to simply confirm that the english word 'attend' encompases day-pass attendance. At the present time, the maximum corruption, if it is indeed meaningful, is two day passes and 1 full meeting. Still a lot of dedication to the IETF as measured my travel time. I suspect that the nature of day-pass vs. full registration is that folks for whom travel costs are a major fraction of the expense would only use day passes for local IETFs ... but it really doean't matter. Meeting attendence as defined by registration is such a weak measure that this whole discussion is really pretty silly. Dave Morris _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf