I think the number of meetings 'registered' for is a poor criteria for familiarity with IETF culture and more important familiarity with the participation of the potential nominees being considered for leadership roles in the IETF. In the pre-day pass days, I paid full fare more than once but only attended a day or two of each meeting. This year, when I used a day pass, I might have opted to attend two WG meetings on two days requiring regular registration but not seen any more of the IETF culture than I did with a single day pass. I'm certain there are others with similar attendance patterns. There was a time when I'd have met the 3 of 5 criteria but not the spirit of the requirement. In reality, attending on a day pass is probabaly as useful a measure of commitment to the IETF culture as paying the full fare. Part of the IETF culture as I know it is that people self-qualify for responsiblity and I'd expect most folks know if they are qualified, whether they attended via day pass or full registration. You can't assume that because someone registered for the full week, that they participated in the full culture. A day pass plus attending the Sunday reception and evening plenaries is probably a better parcipant than full registration to attend 3 isolated WG meetings. So I'd suggest 1 full registration over the past 3 years plus at least two day pass meetings in the last 5 opportunities. Dave Morris On Thu, 6 May 2010, The IESG wrote: > The IESG is considering the following Statement on the Day Pass > Experiment. The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks on > a policy statement, and the IESG actively solicits comments on this > action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@xxxxxxxx mailing > lists by 2010-05-20. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to > iesg@xxxxxxxx instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of > the Subject line to allow automated sorting. > > = = = = = = = = > > RFC 3777 requires that voting members of the nominating committee > (NomCom) be selected from volunteers that have attended at least three > of the last five IETF meetings. The IAOC is conducting a day pass > experiment, making it necessary to augment the NomCom eligibility rules > to address IETF participants that make use of a day pass. An update to > RFC 3777 to will be needed to address this situation if at the end of > the experiment the IAOC decides to make day passes a regular meeting > registration alternative; however, a BCP update for an experiment is > overkill. > > The IESG observes that attending a single day of the IETF meeting is not > sufficient for a new participant to learn the culture of the IETF or the > qualities that would make an effective IETF leader. Further, ongoing > exposure to the IETF standards process is necessary to appreciate the > significance and importance of cross-area review. > > The eligibility requirements of volunteers for NomCom voting member > positions are provided in RFC 3777, which includes: > > 14. Members of the IETF community must have attended at least 3 of > the last 5 IETF meetings in order to volunteer. > > In the context of the day pass experiment, this is interpreted to mean: > > 14. IETF participants must have attended at least 3 of the last 5 > IETF meetings in order to volunteer, and that use of a day pass > does not count as IETF meeting attendance. > _______________________________________________ > IETF-Announce mailing list > IETF-Announce@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf