On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, Samuel Weiler wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, David Morris wrote:
If you care about hotel pricing, there is no excuse for complaining
about IETF rates in a location like Anaheim with dozens of alternatives
within walking distance.
So far, I haven't complained (at least not on this list). I've just provided
data. :-)
That said, I think it is fair to complain about rates at the meeting venue.
There is a benefit to being on-site, and it's reasonable for us to be
interested in the rates at the venue property. It may well be that the IAD
is making the right set of tradeoffs here, as Spencer's note highlights.
for a nice birds eyes view of the complexities of meeting planning see:
http://conference.archimuse.com/blog/dbear/
In the last year I've attended at least conference where I paid a package
price (room/registration/catering/social) - so, no choices to make and
a one size fits all price. The current IAOC balancing act actually allows
for some choice (which I appreciate).
- Lucy
hilton.com rates of right now have no relation to the rates which you
might have found 4 weeks ago ... any business with inventory like
hotel rooms, airline seats, etc. will frequently sharply discount
for very near term dates when they are below capacity.
You typically don't see airline tickets drop very much in price. And if they
drop by more than the amount of the change fee (if any), one expects to see
people cancel and rebook to take advantage of the lower fare. And if it
happens often enough, people learn not to pay the premium for booking early,
and the airline can't get early bookings. Hence the pressure on revenue
management folks to make good projections and not need to drop prices late.
Similarly, I've rarely seen transparent hotel rates vary by this much[1]. To
be clear: we're now seeing a walk-up rate at this hotel which is $75/night
lower than our group rate. (Put another way, the group rate is 63% higher
than the walk-up rate.)
The magnitude of the difference in this case seems worthy of being called
out.
In addition, in some convention situations, room rates subsidize the
cost of meeting facilities. Don't know if that applies here.
I'm certain that it does.
-- Sam
[1] More typically, hotels offer lower rates through opaque channels like
Priceline and Hotwire. As an example, the San Francisco Hilton was selling
rooms on Hotwire for $89 during the week of our meeting there last year. Our
group rate was $235. Their transparent rate (walk-up) was about $209. Less
than our group rate, but not by as much as the opaque rate.
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