Don, Now this is the explanation I expected to hear. I was explicitly told that this wasn't the case for the IETF. If there is a subsidy, I think it should be disclosed, and doing something along the lines of what the 802 does would be completely reasonable. Lou On 3/23/2010 11:54 PM, Donald Eastlake wrote: > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Lou Berger <lberger@xxxxxxxx > <mailto:lberger@xxxxxxxx>> wrote: > > I asked Ray about this problem in Hiroshima, his response was something > along the lines of "conference rates are different and more complicated > from regular hotel rates". I have to say, I really think the community > deserves a detailed response on this topic from the secretariat... > > Lou > > > I don't know why you would expect a different answer from the answer > that has previously been provided. Its complicated and each meeting is a > little different but in general, the lower the room rates the higher the > registration fee. If, in effect, registration fees are being subsidized > by room rates and enough people evade the room rates one way or another, > the registration fees have to go up. For an interesting and unusual > example, here is some registration information for the March 2010 IEEE > 802 Plenary meeting, which I attended in Orlando, Florida, last week: > http://ieee802.facetoface-events.com/files/sessions/63/update2.pdf > You will note (see red text at near the bottom of the page) that, if you > didn't stay in one of the two official meeting hotels, you had to pay an > extra $300 registration fee. > > Thanks, > Donald > > > > On 3/23/2010 6:44 PM, Samuel Weiler wrote: > > Once again, we appear to be meeting in a hotel that's offering > lower rates to > > the general public than they're offering to us. > > > > As of right now, the "Best Available Rate" at the Anaheim Hilton > for tonight, > > 23 March 2010, is $119. The senior rate is $113. That's from > hilton.com <http://hilton.com>. > > With a 2 day cancellation policy. > > > > The same rate is also available for a three night stay, leaving on > Friday. > > > > -- Sam > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf