On 3/10/2010 5:04 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > And there was a time when a Request For Comments was intended to be an > informal note, we seem to have made a mess there as well. > > What I find sad about the whole identity/authentication area is the > way that we have so many frameworks and frameworks of frameworks and > complexity for what is a very simple problem. And I am sorry, but > doing the job the user wants done IS actually the easy part. > > > What is hard about federated authentication is the fact that there are > all these people who already think they have done something important > and that it must be part of the solution. It's their jobs on the line and their professional credibility. Todd > > The result is a series of Frankenstein monsters with very visible > seams with irrelevant choices the user is presented with. Something the Sponsor's have no idea about since the members rarely if ever report to them. > My computer > knows I am logged into my Google mail account to write this note. Why > can't it figure out a seamless and entirely transparent method of > securely communicating that fact to other sites I might want to > access? because that would mean systems built by many different people would actually have to work together and that means human ego's would be damaged... > That is not a hard problem, but it has been made hard by > insistence on irrelevant technology. > > Last time we had a BOF on that subject matter we had people with the > bizarre notion that the user interface should be excluded from work on > user authentication.I don't care if usability is outside people's > comfort zone, if any group is going to be chartered in this space it > should be required to address usability issues or we are better off > without it. > > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Melinda Shore <shore@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Mar 9, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Glen Zorn wrote: >>> >>> Suddenly I'm nostalgic for the days when bar BOFs were impromptu affairs >>> that sprang up in, well, _bars_ & were of necessity free of PowerPoint >>> infestation... >> >> It wasn't that long ago that a member of the IESG was >> objecting to calling them BOFs at all. It used to be >> the case that it was just a bunch of people talking, >> and this stuff about rooms and presentations and whatnot >> leads me to wonder if the "bar BOF" has graduated to >> something that's got some level of sponsorship or >> support from somewhere other than just the people who >> show up, and whether or not that matters. >> >> Melinda >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ietf mailing list >> Ietf@xxxxxxxx >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >> > > >
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