Re: ietf 1id_guidelines tool broken

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Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
Your initial 'bugreport' contained no specifics whatsoever.

You inappropriately sent the 'tool is broken' message to the whole IETF
general discussion list, in addition to addressing me directly (so it's
not as if you didn't know where to direct a bug report).

All IETF draft submitters need to know promptly, as Monday is the deadline
for -00 version internet-drafts.

It took some time (2 hours) to figure out that you had written the tool
that generated the bad output, as the secretariat does not put your name
(nor the tool name nor the version number) in their response message.

I'm regretting wasting my time (finding you).

And you probably shouldn't increment the .trivial for such a huge change.
That was really a major change (as was 1id_guidelines itself).

Maybe that's the reason the secretariat didn't think it was important
enough to install.


All of the above earns you no respect with me, and that colours my
responses.  Next time, send a bug report to the secretariat or to me
directly, containing specifics that lets us *fix* the problem, rather
than blazoning an unspecific and unhelpful 'Things don't work' message
across the sky, and you might get a different tone back.

It was reported to the secretariat directly ~13:53 EST by 'phone, but
could not be fixed promptly.

AFAICT, it's still not updated!

  http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/

At this very moment:

Version: 2.12.00
Author:

Note the author is missing here, too.

Also, the verbose output doesn't count line lengths correctly.  Apparently,
it is including the non-printing FF in the count.  Not good.

<sarcasm>
Also, this was somewhat amusing:

  ** Obsolete normative reference: RFC 1700 (ref. 'RFC 3232') (Obsoleted by
     RFC 3232)

Outstanding!  Fails on the reference to RFC 1700 in the *title* of the
RFC 3232 reference that obsoleted RFC 1700:

1432	   [RFC 3232]  Reynolds, J., "Assigned Numbers: RFC 1700 is Replaced by
1433	               an On-line Database", January 2002.
</sarcasm>

At least the secretariat was smart enough to know that "**" pseudo-error
was bogus, and didn't include it in their message to me.

As I wrote previously, get off your high horse.  We really don't need the
attitude....  Next time, test to see that your own code was installed and
actually works.  It's obvious that you never tested much of anything.
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