>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: Peter> On 1/7/10 9:46 AM, Russ Housley wrote: >> Andy: >> >>>> Although this preference cannot guarantee that the working >>>> group will produce an unencumbered codec, the working group >>>> shall attempt to adhere to the spirit of BCP 79. This >>>> preference does not explicitly rule out the possibility of >>>> adapting encumbered technologies; such decisions will be made >>>> in accordance with the rough consensus of the working group. >>> >>> I appreciate the potential difficulty of guaranteeing the >>> unencumbered status of any output of this group. However, I >>> would like this statement to be stronger, saying that this group >>> will only produce a new codec if it is strongly believed by WG >>> rough consensus to either be unencumbered, or freely licensed by >>> the IPR holder(s), if any. >> >> I do not think that anyone wants the outcome to be yet another >> encumbered codec. I think these words are trying to say what you >> want, but they are also trying to be realistic. >> >> Does the following text strike a better balance? >> >> Although this preference cannot guarantee that the working group >> will produce an unencumbered codec, the working group shall >> follow BCP 79, and adhere to the spirit of BCP 79. The working >> group cannot explicitly rule out the possibility of adapting >> encumbered technologies; however, the working group will try to >> avoid encumbered technologies that require royalties. I agree with the concerns that Stephan expressed. Royalties are only one source of significant problems. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf