Dave CROCKER [mailto:dcrocker@xxxxxxxx] writes: > Ted Hardie wrote: > > My personal take on the resolution of this is that the Chinese > > government has provided a long-recognized way of routing around the > > problem. The "One Country/Two Systems" formulation created by Deng > > Xiaoping sets aside special administrative regions that clearly are > > part of China and yet do not share the characteristics which have > been > > of concern in this community consultation. If we can make > > participation easier for our Chinese colleagues by meeting in Hong > > Kong or Macau, I think we should do so, and I think so even if that > > means the meeting must be unsponsored. > > > +1 My understanding is that it is actually more difficult for citizens of the PRC to obtain a visa to HK or Macau than to for example, Sweden. However, this may be a fruitful line of thought: I believe that it is quite easy to travel between China and the ASEAN countries (Viet Nam, Thailand, etc.). I have suggested Bangkok as a site for an IETF several times before; it has many large hotels, good air and adequate Internet connectivity, a tourist-friendly environment, etc. The only drawback seems to be its reputation as offering entirely too many opportunities for wholesome fun ;-), which runs afoul of the Calvinist tendencies of the IESG. I think that this could be largely overcome by scheduling the meeting during the hot season, however: few will venture outside the air-conditioned hotel... Hope this helps. ~gwz _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf