>>>>> "Olaf" == Olaf Kolkman <olaf@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
Olaf> On Sep 8, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Sam Hartman wrote:
> Tim, I definitely agree with you that it should be the IETF community
>> that is last called. Normally, the IESG judges IETF consensus.
>> However, if it makes the IAB more comfortable for the IAB chair
>> to do the consensus call, that's fine with me. If we do that
>> we'd need to make it clear how this interacts with the IETF
>> appeals process.
Olaf> Sam,
Olaf> the underlying point of my question is that the streams are
Olaf> independent and that the IETF (stream) has no say about the
Olaf> other streams. IETF consensus or not.
Right; I think I made it fairly clear in my reply to John Klensin that
I disagreed fairly strongly with that and argued why I believed that
the IETF needs a special role to attach a note to something. No
discussion prior or since has changed my mind.
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