Tim, I definitely agree with you that it should be the IETF community that is last called. Normally, the IESG judges IETF consensus. However, if it makes the IAB more comfortable for the IAB chair to do the consensus call, that's fine with me. If we do that we'd need to make it clear how this interacts with the IETF appeals process. I'm not thrilled with the appeals process starting with the IAB and only going to the ISOC BOT in case there is no adequate process (6.5.3 in RFC 2026). However I could live with that. I suspect this may be one of those cases where we know we've gotten a good compromise because no one is happy with it. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf