In my opinion, 3932bis is internally inconsistent about IESG notes. This document expressly directs the IESG to reserve IESG notes for exceptional cases, but then leaves the decision on whether the note should be included to the RFC Editor: > In exceptional cases, when the relationship of the document to the IETF > standards process might be unclear, the IESG may request that the RFC > Editor include an IESG note to clarify the relationship of the > document to the IETF standards process, such a note is likely to > include pointers to related IETF RFCs. Personally, I think that the relationship is unclear in many cases, but it is all a question of degree. I interpret this text as directing the IESG to reserve such notes for cases where serious conflicts exist and it is particularly important to clarify the relationship and identify the documents that represent community consensus. In such a case, I would not want to see the RFC Editor ignore the request or modify the note without IESG agreement. The current text of 3932bis seems to permit either. I believe Sam's suggestion offers a good compromise position: if the IESG and RFC Editor do not come to an agreement, we should last call the proposed IESG Note and let the community determine whether (1) this is an exceptional case meriting a note and (2) if the text accurately clarifies the relationship. Tim Polk On 9/2/09 12:38 PM, "Sam Hartman" <hartmans-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > I'd also be happy with a > mechanism where the IESG could propose a note, and the RFC editor had > the option of accepting the note or asking the IESG to last-call its > note within the IETF community. > > I would not consider it acceptable if the note were purely advisory. > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf