Joel M. Halpern wrote: > If the ISE / RSE is unreasonable, the IAB will slap the editor and say > "stop doing that." There is no equivalent process if we reverse the > structure. Yes, there is. If the IESG would request/recommend a particularly bad IESG note, this decision can be appealed just like any other IESG decision. The IAB would then determine if the IESG acted appropriately or not. On the other hand, if the ISE/RSE decides to publish a document without an IESG note even if the IESG requested/recommended it, this decision cannot be effectively appealed (since the RFC already came out, and can't be really "recalled"). Although I'm not expecting this really to happen very often (if ever), from checks-and-balances viewpoint I would support (b) from Jari's email (in other words: RFC Editor cannot unilaterally ignore a note requested by IESG, but has to take it to the IAB via the usual appeal procedures). Best regards, Pasi _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf