Looks good to me. I have concerns about #6, since it is fairly common that we run light on food during the reception. And if there are limits on the reception, then I think it reaosnable to favor those who paid for the full week. But I can support the experiment. Will One Day Pass first-timers be invited to the First-Time Attendees reception as well? dbh > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Ray Pelletier > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 2:37 PM > To: Doug Barton > Cc: John C Klensin; 'IETF-Discussion' > Subject: One Day Pass Proposal was Re: One Day Pass for newcomers > > All; > > Let me offer a suggestion for which we would like to receive > quick and > constructive feedback so that the opening of the IETF 76 > registration > will not be delayed. > > One Day Pass Program > > A person may purchase a One Day Pass to attend any one day of > the IETF > Meeting for $200. > > Benefits of the One Day Pass: > 1. Attend all sessions during any one day of the Meeting, and > partake > of the food and beverage during the breaks that day > 2. Day can be selected during online registration, but can be > changed > onsite without penalty > 3. Payments may be made onsite without a late fee > 4. Pass can be upgraded to a full Meeting Registration, > however, late > fee may apply if initial Pass payment not made before Early Bird > deadline (Note: Intended to discourage gaming the system) > 5. Attend Sunday Tutorials at no additional charge > 6. Attend Sunday Welcome Reception at no additional charge > 7. Attend Wednesday and Thursday Plenaries at no additional charge > 8. Purchase a ticket 4 - 5 PM on Tuesday to attend the Host's > Tuesday > evening Social, if tickets are available > > Ray > IAD > > On Aug 23, 2009, at 9:47 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > > > John C Klensin wrote: > >> > >> --On Sunday, August 23, 2009 14:18 -0700 Doug Barton > >> <dougb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >>> ... > >>> So, if someone doesn't get at > >>>> least a day pass, I'd be happier if we charged a nominal (even > >>>> if only $10 - $20) fee for registration for the tutorial than > >>>> just open the doors. > >> > >>> I disagree here. I think that opening the newcomer's session > >>> and (if the host is agreeable) the reception on Sunday to all > >>> comers would have way more benefits than costs. Of course we > >>> would have to capitalize on all those fresh bodies by having > >>> registration open and suitable promotional materials for both > >>> full and one-day registration prominently (yet tastefully) > >>> displayed. > >> > >> Doug, > >> > >> I think that the ability for active participants in the IETF to > >> get into the reception and even eat is fairly important, > >> probably more important than encouraging first-timers and > >> visitors. I hope that you would agree with that, even though we > >> would both prefer to have no restrictions in that regard. > > > > I definitely agree that if I pay for IETF I want my shot at > the dried > > out chicken wings, yes. :) FWIW I'm not trying to minimize your > > concerns, which I think are valid. I simply think that reasonable > > minds can differ on the cost/benefit analysis. > > > >> What caused my suggestion for a nominal fee and some sort of > >> preregistration (which that fee would imply) was a vision of the > >> IETF meeting in a location with nearby college campuses and the > >> possibility of signs (possibly put up by third parties) > >> advertising the reception and noting "free food" and, depending > >> on the location and sponsor "free beer". I leave the rest to > >> your imagination. > > > > Well, you seem to have a darker view of human nature than I do, and > > that's saying something. There are ways to solve both problems I > > think, such as setting aside the first 30 minutes for paid > > participants and opening the doors wide after that. > > > > In any case I don't want to overengineer the social events. I > > personally think that we should use the golden rule. > Whoever pays the > > gold for the event gets to make the rules. > > > > Regardless of where we come out on the socials I think it would be > > good to have some kind of consensus on opening the newcomer session > > and the plenaries, at minimum to those who pay for day > passes (and IMO > > for all comers). There's only a little over 2 months till Hiroshima, > > so it would be nice to have a settled policy on this > soon-ish so that > > people can make their plans appropriately. > > > > > > Doug > > _______________________________________________ > > Ietf mailing list > > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf