To respond to the original question. For what it is worth, I have written a simple and free tool in java for editing (and viewing) drafts using nroff, which I find a lot easier and convenient than XML. It's available from: http://aaa-sec.com/nroffedit/index.html Source is available upon request. /Stefan On 09-06-28 6:33 PM, "Iljitsch van Beijnum" <iljitsch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, > > XML2RFC isn't working for me. > > For instance, We are now required to use boilerplate that the > "official" version of XML2RFC doesn't recognize so it's necessary to > use a beta version that is even more undocumented than the regular > undocumentedness of the "official" version of XML2RFC. Of course such > things tend to only surface the day of the cutoff. > > I used to write drafts by hand sometimes in the past, but this is also > very hard, because today's tools just don't have any notion of hard > line endings, let alone with spaces at the beginning of all lines and > hard page breaks (at places that make no sense in an A4 world, too). > > This is getting worse because the checks done on IDs upon submission > are getting stricter and stricter. > > See > http://www.educatedguesswork.org/movabletype/archives/2007/11/curse_you_xml2r. > html > for a long story that I mostly agree with. > > As such, I want to see the following: > > - the latest boilerplate is published in an easy to copy&paste format > - drafts may omit page breaks > - drafts may omit indentation and hard line breaks > - no requirements for reference formats > > Note that this is for drafts in general. If the RFC editor wishes to > impose stricter formatting rules I can live with that. > > Please don't reply with helpful hints on how to work with XML2RFC. > Even with a perfect XML2RFC I would still be forced to create XML, > which is something I desperately long to avoid. > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf