On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Harald Alvestrand<harald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Voting has all kinds of issues. Precisely the type of vague, non reason that I was complaining about. > I like the current Nomcom process because it depends on 2 things: > > - A pool of qualified volunteers > - Luck in picking a nomcom that behaves sensibly (for whatever that means to > you) > > Given that luck is involved, many of the possible attacks that people could > mount in order to gain more IETF influence won't happen - simply because > they have a significant chance of failure. Trying, failing, and being > detected as having tried, would be harmful to the group that tried it. The last time I was aware of anything like that happening in any standards group was when XrML was killed in OASIS, but the issue there was people opposed to DRM, not a company driven thing. Where companies want to tilt the playing field they usually have to start the organization to succeed. Or get in early like the XRI folk did with OpenID. And fat lot of good it did them. As a former corporate rep, I can assure you that there is precisely zero value in gaining the imprimatur of the IETF (or OASIS or W3C for that matter) if you short circuit the process. The point of standards participation is to get buy in from other parties you need to build common infrastructure. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf