Re: Publicizing IETF nominee lists [Fwd: Last Call: draft-dawkins-nomcom-openlist (Nominating Committee Process: Open Disclosure of Willing Nominees) to BCP]

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And why did XMPP leave IETF process in the first place?


On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:27 AM, Dave Cridland<dave@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed Jun 10 16:32:37 2009, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>>
>> A more useful change would be to abolish NOMCON and for those
>> currently qualified to sit on NOMCON to elect the IAB and ADs
>> directly.
>
> A complete disaster for me, at least, since I - along with a substantial
> number of reasonably active and involved IETF participants - am no qualified
> to sit on NOMCOM.
>
> With the current state of affairs, I can still ensure my voice is heard by
> NOMCOM, whereas with direct voting, I could not. Given the current climate,
> and particularly how it affects corporate-sponsored travel, I strongly
> suspect that there'll be many more in my boat - indeed, it's substantially
> worse for those of us not in continental north america anyway.
>
> Of course, you could change the criteria, but the real critieria which - I
> assume - the NOMCOM consider how much to weigh an opinion is presumably on
> some ethereal "participation level", which is exceedingly difficult to
> measure.
>
> FWIW, the XMPP Standards Foundation has an actual membership, who do actual
> voting. I'm deeply unconvinced it provides the best solution there, and I've
> been successfully voted in to the XMPP Council twice. (Which may, of course,
> be evidence of it not working at all, to some).
>
> Dave.
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