And why did XMPP leave IETF process in the first place? On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:27 AM, Dave Cridland<dave@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed Jun 10 16:32:37 2009, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: >> >> A more useful change would be to abolish NOMCON and for those >> currently qualified to sit on NOMCON to elect the IAB and ADs >> directly. > > A complete disaster for me, at least, since I - along with a substantial > number of reasonably active and involved IETF participants - am no qualified > to sit on NOMCOM. > > With the current state of affairs, I can still ensure my voice is heard by > NOMCOM, whereas with direct voting, I could not. Given the current climate, > and particularly how it affects corporate-sponsored travel, I strongly > suspect that there'll be many more in my boat - indeed, it's substantially > worse for those of us not in continental north america anyway. > > Of course, you could change the criteria, but the real critieria which - I > assume - the NOMCOM consider how much to weigh an opinion is presumably on > some ethereal "participation level", which is exceedingly difficult to > measure. > > FWIW, the XMPP Standards Foundation has an actual membership, who do actual > voting. I'm deeply unconvinced it provides the best solution there, and I've > been successfully voted in to the XMPP Council twice. (Which may, of course, > be evidence of it not working at all, to some). > > Dave. > -- > Dave Cridland - mailto:dave@xxxxxxxxxxxx - xmpp:dwd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > - acap://acap.dave.cridland.net/byowner/user/dwd/bookmarks/ > - http://dave.cridland.net/ > Infotrope Polymer - ACAP, IMAP, ESMTP, and Lemonade > -- -- New Website: http://hallambaker.com/ View Quantum of Stupid podcasts, Tuesday and Thursday each week, http://quantumofstupid.com/ _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf