Re: Publicizing IETF nominee lists [Fwd: Last Call: draft-dawkins-nomcom-openlist (Nominating Committee Process: Open Disclosure of Willing Nominees) to BCP]

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I am concerned about this development for several reasons:

1) exposing the full list to the entire community invites lobbying the
nomcom

	This probably already happens to some extent, but do
	we really want to encourage this?

2) exposing the willing participation of individuals for certain
position could be a disincentive

	E.g., consider someone whose current employer won't/can't
	support the level of commitment required for a position,
	and that a new employer has agreed to hire them - either
	contingent on the position or just at some point in
	the future so that they can accept the position if appointed.

	Exposing this list could expose intentions to shift
	employers, which would be a disincentive to some.

If the Nomcom cannot make this decision without wide community input
(which I tend to agree with), then we either need open lists with open
elections or we need closed lists with closed elections. I do not see
utility in mixing the two.

Joe

Leslie Daigle wrote:
> 
> I know Spencer has brought one item of discussion from this last call to
> the general IETF mailing list, but I'd like to draw attention to the
> whole document, which, if passed, will make a significant change in IETF
> practice:  the lists of willing nominees for IETF positions will be
> published publicly.
> 
> This has been discussed on the ietf-nomcom list:
> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> ietf-nomcom mailing list
>> ietf-nomcom@xxxxxxxx
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-nomcom 
> 
> 
> So, if you're interested, check out the mailing list archives to see how
> potential issues were discussed.
> 
> Leslie.
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Last Call: draft-dawkins-nomcom-openlist (Nominating
> Committee     Process: Open Disclosure of Willing Nominees) to BCP
> Date: Fri,  5 Jun 2009 16:45:11 -0700 (PDT)
> From: The IESG <iesg-secretary@xxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: ietf@xxxxxxxx
> To: IETF-Announce <ietf-announce@xxxxxxxx>
> 
> The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
> the following document:
> 
> - 'Nominating Committee Process: Open Disclosure of Willing Nominees '
>    <draft-dawkins-nomcom-openlist-04.txt> as a BCP
> 
> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
> final comments on this action.  Please send substantive comments to the
> ietf@xxxxxxxx mailing lists by 2009-07-03. Exceptionally,
> comments may be sent to iesg@xxxxxxxx instead. In either case, please
> retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
> 
> The file can be obtained via
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dawkins-nomcom-openlist-04.txt
> 
> 
> IESG discussion can be tracked via
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=view_id&dTag=18213&rfc_flag=0
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