RE: Last Call: draft-dawkins-nomcom-openlist (Nominating Committee Process: Open Disclosure of Willing Nominees) to BCP

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I support changing these to "must". 

We don't of course have any mechanisms to enforce this (especially
discussions by other IETF community members on non-IETF mailing
lists)... but currently, asking people to treat nominee lists *as if*
they were confidential (even though they were not) has had the effect
of preventing public discussions about the candidates (on e.g.
ietf@xxxxxxxx mailing list).

I don't think such discussions would be helpful for the goals
of the NomCom process (or the IETF in general), and I think the
document should send a clear message that they're not acceptable
in the future either (instead of leaving wiggle room that they 
might be OK in some circumstances).
 
Best regards,
Pasi

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> ext Spencer Dawkins
> Sent: 09 June, 2009 23:33
> To: ietf@xxxxxxxx
> Cc: brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Fw: Last Call: draft-dawkins-nomcom-openlist (Nominating
> Committee Process: Open Disclosure of Willing Nominees) to BCP
> 
> Brian Carpenter had a Last Call comment that I needed to follow up
> on...
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > (IETF list not copied as I'm on leave and minimising email, but
> > there is nothing confidential about this comment.)
> >
> >>       Feedback on nominees should always be provided privately to
> >>       NomCom.  Nominees should not solicit support, and other IETF
> >>       community members should not post statements of support/
> >>       non-support for nominees in any public forum.
> >
> > I believe these three occurrences of 'should' need to be 'must'.
> > I don't think there should be any wiggle room on this point.
> >
> >    Brian
> 
> Russ thinks I should check on this with the rest of the community, so
> I'm
> asking for feedback now.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Spencer
> 
> 
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