RE: IETF 78 Annoucement

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While Netherlands is one of my favorite countries, over the last couple of years, the train service has become much less dependable. Maintenance activities are common, especially on weekends, where a bus is available between the two points, but the timing is unpredictable. And only if you have looked on-line and can read Dutch, will you be aware of it. And sometimes there are strikes - sometimes while you are on the train - it happened to me on the train between the airport and Amsterdam - and again the announcements were only in Dutch. Most Dutch can speak English, and someone will translate for you.
 
Suggest if you need to make a morning flight, stay the night before at an airport hotel or in Amsterdam where you can also take a taxi/airport bus. And this gives you the opportunity to also see Amsterdam:-)

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From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx on behalf of Iljitsch van Beijnum
Sent: Tue 5/26/2009 4:10 AM
To: Ole Jacobsen
Cc: IETF Discussion
Subject: Re: IETF 78 Annoucement



On 25 mei 2009, at 23:33, Ole Jacobsen wrote:

> Of all the people who have to travel to this meeting, I would not have
> imagined that you would be the one to complain.

It just doesn't make sense to me to meet in places that are that hard 
to reach. I've skipped San Diego for exactly this reason in the past 
and I'm not sure I'll be going to Hiroshima.

The fact that there is very little information coming out about how 
this decision was reached and some of it has been of questionable 
quality ("MAYBE 3 venues big enough", I listed 4 so with Maastricht 
that's 5; "reason for meeting during European holiday season lost in 
the mists of time") doesn't help.

> The Netherlands is not
> a large country and it's not far from a lot of places in continental
> Europe.


However, the Netherlands only has a single airport with decent 
connections and ground transportation. For those of us traveling to 
IETF-78 from within Europe it's still doable (probably have to 
sacrifice the friday afternoon sessions, though) but I'm glad I don't 
have to fly in from the US west coast or Asia.
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