At 02:15 PM 5/25/2009, Ole Jacobsen wrote: >Right, well the Internet has improved availability of this info, >besides you would expect a local host to provide the most crucial >bits Mostly they do and it's - "Get off the plane, grab your luggage and take a taxi or bus to the hotel" or occasionally "Get off the plane, go down a level from baggage claim and grab the X train which runs every 15-30 minutes to the Y stop and then walk/take a taxi to the hotel". Here we seem to have (and I'm paraphrasing you and others) "there are at least 3 international airports that might make sense to come in to. For each of them you will have to take a train and make at least one train change en route. For some routes and airports it could be as high as three changes. Trains are on time 80% of the time so you may or may not make the connections and may or may not have to wait for up to X minutes at each connection point. If you need to arrive or leave intercontinentallly, because of the possible connection issues, we recommend you travel by train to a hotel near the airport the day before your flight and/or arrive a day early and rest at the airport hotel before braving the train system." And so on. As Patrik points out - train travel is qualitatively different than plane travel for a number of reasons. Familiarity with the specific train system is generally more critical than familiarity with a specific airline in determining successful and comfortable travel. I have no doubt we'll be getting all sorts of information on how to get there from the hosts, but even they can't list all the possibilities. I'm not saying we can't figure out how to get there - just that the process for doing so for this meeting seems overly complicated, even for the process-bound group we've become. With respect to your suggestion of adding hotels as stopping points - many companies won't permit/reimburse such stops unless transportation schedules mandate them. Again, I'll do it if I have to, but if I'm not on vacation, travel is all about getting there and back in the least stressful and most timely, effective, productive and risk-averse manner. Later, Mike _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf