For better or for worse, several years ago, in reaction to the difficulty people were having attending IETF meetings due to the late announcement of meeting dates and/or clashes with other groups, the decision was made to build a comprehensive do-not-clash list and announce meeting dates as far in advance as possible. This also helps other groups that don't schedule quite so far in advance to avoid clashing with the IETF. This is much more convenient, IMHO, then the way it used to be, which tried to optimize meeting costs/locations while keeping dates relatively fluid for as long as possible. Scheduling meetings this large is not an easy task, and the relative certainty on dates makes it easier on both the attendees and the planners. The current schedule does a relatively good job of not clashing with either other meetings of importance, and major religious or other holidays. You obviously can't please everyone, but in the aggregate, I think the IETF is doing a pretty good job on meeting planning. Try being an ITU-T regular and you'll end up in places where it's not safe to leave the hotel (like the Caracas meeting, where at least one attendee was kidnapped and robbed by his taxi driver) or you'll be in Geneva all the time, where they charge $500 for a decent hotel room. Cheers, Andy On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 25 mei 2009, at 16:56, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: > >> spoon-feeding: > >> by figuring out when the IETF meeting is and placing its own meeting at >> least 1, preferably at least 2, weeks away. > > Right, because I obviously asked about the difference in possibilities > between july and june because I wanted to have this particular meeting to be > moved exactly one month such that it overlaps with something that's on the > clash list, rather than use this information in future decision making. > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf