David, OK, fine. The general point was: We meet and have met in places in the US and Canada that are not one hop from "everywhere". Dave seems to think that Minneapolis is incovenient, it's not one hop from San Francisco or San Jose generally speaking, but I don't think this rules it (or San Diego, or Philadelphia, or Pittsburg) out as an IETF meeting venue. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@xxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Sun, 24 May 2009, David A. Bryan wrote: > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Ole Jacobsen <ole@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Coming from Tokyo to Minneapolis isn't exactly a single hop either if > > you want to consider another case. > > Actually, it is a single hop. There is daily non-stop service from Tokyo to MSP: > > http://www.orbitz.com/flight-info/NW/NW-MSP-NRT.html > > And there are quite a few non-stop flights to MSP from Europe as well, > including Paris, Amsterdam, and Heathrow, plus Mumbai and > Singapore....and this is just the Northwest (Delta) non-stops. So > while personally I love visiting the Netherlands and think Maastricht > will be a very fun trip indeed, it will be quite difficult to get to, > and arguing this is somehow even remotely similar to Minneapolis in > terms of air service is pretty far off the mark. Minneapolis is not > Chicago or London, and lack of competition might make it a bit pricier > than some other airports, but it has a very well served international > airport. > > David _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf