On 2009-04-17 17:14, Fernando Gont wrote: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Anantha Ramaiah (ananth) > <ananth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> * The document never mentions the fact that this document is >>> IPR-encumbered. ... > I personally believe this should be noted in all RFCs on which there's > a known IPR. However, Joel Halpern mentioned this is not current > practice. If that's the case, I'd have no problem with leaving it "as > is". (FWIW, if you look at our tcp-security document, we do recommend > the implementation of the counter-measures you propose, but just note > that there's an IPR, and that implementers should research how this > would affect them). Personal belief doesn't come into it. It's strictly defined in a BCP. RFC3979 tells us the rules about this. Basically, the RFC Editor will do what is required: "4. Actions for Documents for which IPR Disclosure(s) Have Been Received (A) When any Intellectual Property Right is disclosed before publication as an RFC, with respect to any technology or specification, described in a Contribution in the manner set forth in Section 6 of this document, the RFC Editor shall ensure that the document include a note indicating the existence of such claimed Intellectual Property Rights in any RFC published from the Contribution. (See Section 5 below.)" [Section 5 defines the exact text to be included in such RFCs. I believe you can use <?rfc iprnotified="yes"?> in xml2rfc.] "11. No IPR Disclosures in IETF Documents IETF and RFC Editor Documents must not contain any mention of specific IPR. All specific IPR disclosures must be submitted as described in Section 6. Specific IPR disclosures must not be in the affected IETF and RFC Editor Documents because the reader could be misled. The inclusion of a particular IPR disclosure in a document could be interpreted to mean that the IETF, IESG, or RFC Editor has formed an opinion on the validity, enforceability, or applicability of the IPR. The reader could also be misled to think that the included IPR disclosures are the only IPR disclosures the IETF has received concerning the IETF document. Readers should always refer to the on-line web page to get a full list of IPR disclosures received by the IETF concerning any Contribution. (http://www.ietf.org/ipr/)" Brian _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf