On 2009-04-18 05:57, Russ Housley wrote: ... > If these mail lists were the only convenient way to reach these > individuals, I might agree with your [Sam Hartman's] reasoning. That is not the case. > > These actions do not prevent Dean from communicating with Document > Authors, WG Chairs or ADs. The direct mail addresses for these > individuals are available in the documents that they write, in the WG > charters, and on the IESG web pages, respectively. I believe that Russ's argument is correct. We do publish the direct email addresses of WG Chairs and ADs on www.ietf.org, and I take those (and addresses such as chair@xxxxxxxx, iesg@xxxxxxxx and iab@xxxxxxx) to be the official ones that clearly must accept mail from anyone except obvious spammers. If we declared the aliases at tools.ietf.org to be official, things would be different, but they are in fact just a convenience as Russ says. So I don't see any obstacle to applying a PR Action to them. As Sam said, this has nothing to do with the specific case in point. Brian _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf