A bit agreement with John and Scott. Let's close this up and move on.
Cheers,
Andy
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Scott Brim <swb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> John, I believe you read the consensus right. "authors obtain all of
> the rights they are willing to".
>
> Excerpts from John C Klensin on Tue, Mar 24, 2009 07:35:55PM -0400:
>> Hi.
>>
>> I just attended the IPR ("Pre-5398 Problem") BOF and want to
>> share an impression and suggestion.
>>
>> While one could debate details of text and procedures endlessly,
>> reopen old battles, etc., there is really only one issue at
>> this point, and that issue is whether the community wants to
>>
>> * try to accelerate the transition toward 5378 by
>> obligating authors to make a serious attempt to get
>> signoff from previous contributors or
>>
>> * treat documents that contain pre-5398 material as
>> provided for in the workaround, i.e., authors obtain all
>> of the rights if they are willing to do that but
>> otherwise just insert the workaround text and move on.
>>
>> >From reading the correspondence on the list, I believe that the
>> community prefers the latter although the former has some strong
>> advocates. I'd like to see if we can focus on those questions
>> to see if a conclusion can be reached about the principle before
>> more Internet-Drafts are written.
>>
>> I note that, if the community's preference is really the second
>> choice, then we are finished. The Trustees would presumably
>> follow the general rough consensus on this list, interpret the
>> existing workaround as permanent, and we would all move on.
>>
>> IMO, "finished" would be a big win -- no more I-Ds on the
>> subject, no need for a new or renewed WG, no more cycles of
>> people with better ways to spend their IETF time going into
>> these efforts, etc.
>>
>> Of course, YMMD.
>> john
>>
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