Scott Lawrence wrote: > On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 13:17 -0800, Marc Petit-Huguenin wrote: >> I would like to bring to your attention this proposal to put back >> running code at the center of Internet protocol design by adding a >> new Considerations Section in future Internet-Drafts and RFCs: >> >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-petithuguenin-running-code-considerations-00.txt > > I oppose the addition of such a mandatory or formalized section, despite > the fact that I very much support measuring specification quality and > community support by looking for running code. > > I oppose even more this part of the definition of "running code": > > The minimum rights that should be granted for this source code > are the right to duplicate it for purpose of reading it and the > right to execute it or generate the binary code to execute it. > > I spend nearly all my time and energy these days on open source > software, so this would not be a barrier for me, but it would be for > many people whose contributions are important. It seems that there is a general misunderstanding that this draft asks for mandatory source implementation. This is not the case, and this will be better explained in the next version of the draft. What this draft ask for is to be mandatory to list in a specific section the names, authors and sponsors of early implementations available in source form. Everything that does not fall under the definition can still be acknowledged as it is now (or not) in the normal Acknowledgement section. And if there is no early source implementation, then the section is empty. The only burden for the I-D author is to add an entry in the section when an implementer sends a reference. The burden for the RFC editor is to remove the URLs and eventually the whole section if empty before publication as RFC. That's it. On the other hand this give to reviewers an idea of the complexity needed to implement it and a way to evaluate corner cases, security issues and other "details" that will plague the future production implementations, etc... -- Marc Petit-Huguenin Home: marc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Work: petithug@xxxxxxx _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf