I've heard from a number of the FSF thundering herd people to the effect of 'but the announcement says send email to ietf@xxxxxxxx". (They're conveniently ignoring the fact that it says "the IETF community" all over the place in the Last Call, but never mind.) So clearly we need to change it to say something like: Members of the IETF can send email to ietf@xxxxxxxxx Members of the public to whom this Last Call is forwarded, you can send email to ietf-comment@xxxxxxxx, but we cannot guarantee to do anything with comments at such a late stage in the process. Please join the IETF if you wish to influence standards while the are being worked on; see http://www.ietf.org/<mumble> for instructions on how to do that. (For "Members of the IETF" we can substitute "People who are subscribed to the IETF Discussion list", if people think that is needed in place of the technically somewhat nebulous "Members of the IETF".) And hopefully we can get a few brave souls to volunteer to read ietf-comment, and send on any comments which are novel and or important. Noel _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf