--On Friday, January 09, 2009 8:36 -0500 Scott Brim <swb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Eliot. > > I agree this is a problem ... but not one that we can solve > yet. At this time the face-to-face meetings are still > essential, and one cannot evaluate candidates without good > knowledge of what an I* member's life is like at them. Scott, Part of the reason for the current requirements is exactly what I think you are suggesting -- to raise the odds that Nomcom members will actually know the candidates and have had the opportunity to see them in action in some roles. However, my impression from the outside is that the Nomcom is depending more and more on questionnaires for potential candidates, requests for written input from a variety of people, email requests to candidates and others for information about specific issues and perspectives, etc., and not on the prior knowledge of the Nomcom members. If that impression is correct, then the requirement for Nomcom members to have attended a lot of IETF meetings may be less relevant than it was a decade or so ago, even though one might reasonably require that any volunteer have a firm expectation of being able to attend f2f Nomcom meetings, participate in f2f interviews, etc. (i.e., attend several meetings in succession even if their earlier participation was less dense). In addition, since Nomcoms seem to mostly evaluate and then return incumbents (whether that is good or bad is a separate issue; it is an observable fact), a case can be made that evaluations from within the Nomcom about how I* members deal with participants who do not routinely attend meetings could actually enhance the Nomcom's effectiveness. john _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf