Todd, I generally agree with Tim that it would be difficult to put a value on any IETF submission without an actual transfer of assets of some sort to set a price. However, in general, if a company feels that there is IPR value in technology they are going to include in a submission (and this really deals with ANY kind of standards submission, not just to the IETF), they will most probably submit a patent application prior to the standards submission. So the existence of a patent declaration accompanying the submission at least provides a clue that the submitting company feels that there is some value there (else they wouldn't have bothered with the patent application). However, a value generally can't be set until the company actually starts to issue patent licenses. The value could be as little as zero if no other companies feel compelled to license the technology. As always, the "value of the workproduct", as you put it, is set by the market. Cheers, Andy On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Tim Bray <tbray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 8:27 AM, TS Glassey <tglassey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Since there is now a specific value estimated by the LINUX community at 1.4B >> for the kernel itself > > Hey, I've done an analysis and found that my toenail clippings are > worth $3.8762 billion. That kernel-valuation exercise is the silliest > kind of science fiction. Let me let you in on a little secret: > Everything in the world has a value, and that value is exactly what > people are prepared to pay for it. No more, no less. > > On payment of a generous consulting fee, I would be delighted to > "estimate a specific value" for any given RFC or even I-D. I'll even > issue gold-framed certificates you can mount on the wall. -Tim > >> , the IETF can no longer hide its head in the sand >> claiming that its workproduct has no specific value. This also means that >> ANY AND ALL contributions to the IETF no matter when they happened now need >> to be formally acknowledged for their financial value at the time of their >> contribution. >> >> This is not an OPTION. >> >> Todd Glassey >> _______________________________________________ >> Ietf mailing list >> Ietf@xxxxxxxx >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >> > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf