> -----Original Message----- > From: Vijay K. Gurbani [mailto:vkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 2:32 PM > To: Narayanan, Vidya > Cc: p2pi@xxxxxxxx; ietf@xxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [p2pi] WG Review: Application-Layer Traffic > Optimization (alto) > > Narayanan, Vidya wrote: > > With respect to process, I think this one takes the cake among > > abominations. Having been at the IETF long enough and having > > participated in several BoFs, I'm quite familiar with > RFC2418 and the > > process. Here we have an effort that started with a closed/gated > > workshop outside the IETF, > > Actually, this is not so. The workshop *was* sponsored by > IETF; the RAI area, to be more precise (please see > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf-announce/current/msg 04758.html). > My point is that this was a closed effort - it was not a meeting that was open to all for attendence. The fact that the RAI ADs decided to do this doesn't automatically make it "IETF sponsored". Not to mention that the topics covered by this workshop or the scope of it was not really open to discussion at the IETF. All of this makes it sqauarely an effort outside the IETF and let's not try to pretend it was somehow as open as other IETF efforts. But, let's get past that itself and focus on how to make the best of the effort going forward. Regards, Vidya > The initial notes from the workshop are also archived at > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/p2pi/current/msg00025.html. > > Thanks, > > - vijay > -- > Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent 1960 > Lucent Lane, Rm. 9C-533, Naperville, Illinois 60566 (USA) > Email: vkg@{alcatel-lucent.com,bell-labs.com,acm.org} > WWW: http://www.alcatel-lucent.com/bell-labs > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf