Dave I said "perceived" conflict of interest. Off the top of my head I can think of at least a half dozen or so participants (hereinafter "ranters") that are so convinced of their own infallibility, that the only way they can rationalize being turned down for something (document submission, a change of a specific word in a specific paragraph, WG chair, etc) is that someone is out to get them. Giving them more ammunition to make such claims (e.g. obviously X is out to get me because I'm running against him) seems to me to be somewhat of a bad idea. Couple this with the dozen or so participants who have loudly and repeatedly stated their belief in the evilness of various ADs both with and without objective evidence and even I might start getting confused about whether the original ranter is ranting or is making a point I should consider. If I'm a nomcom member who hasn't been paying attention to past rants (because they're on a WG mailing list for example), I might be tempted to impute fire where the smoke is. I believe over the years our ADs have been pretty free of conflict of interest - but the perception of such conflict of interest has at times taken on a life of its own. Mike At 03:11 PM 9/15/2008, Dave CROCKER wrote: >Mike, > >Michael StJohns wrote: >>This isn't only about AD power, it's about perception of conflict of >>interest. >... >>This might be a specious argument, but there are enough conspiracy theorists >... > > >This entire line of thinking gets scarier and scarier. If it has any validity as concern, then we already have a very deep problem. Candidacy often is already known among some of the IETF community, including among incumbents and other candidates. So the conflict of interest problem is already present... if your point is valid. > >Having candidacies be more publicly declared might change the statistics, but it won't change the basic reality. > >d/ >-- > > Dave Crocker > Brandenburg InternetWorking > bbiw.net _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf