Andrew Sullivan <ajs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 09:25:42AM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: > >> request should be well established. I can think of at least two reasons >> that are valid: >> >> * Exact duplicates >> * Spam > > As soon as you have evaluated the claim, even for "exact duplication" > or "it's spam", haven't you done exactly what the pages claim not to > do (take a position on the validity of the claim)? I know that sounds > silly, but it seems to me that any evaluation _at all_ is > automatically a contravention of what the pages say the IETF does. If > the pages are just a list of claims, including bogus ones, then the > IETF has taken no position at all. As soon as some of them have been > evaluated, we're at the top of a slippery slope, I think. That's a safer position, yes, but I suspect it will be completely unusable quickly because of spam. I can't find anything about permitting anonymous patent disclosures to the IETF, so I think it would be possible to require some human interaction with the submitter, to verify his identity, before a disclosure is posted. Contacting a company's counsel when feasible would also help. I don't think this would violate the requirement not to validate claims -- we are not validating the claims, but just validating the person notifying the IETF. This sounds somewhat complex though, so maybe it is overkill. /Simon _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf