Speaking as an individual who has also participated in the work of other standards organizations - In other SDOs, the IEEE 802 for example, suggesting a fix for a problem detected in the text at ballot time is not only welcome, but sometimes the recommended if not mandatory practice. Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 12:58 AM > To: Joel M. Halpern > Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Qualitative Analysis of IETF and IESG trends > (Re: Measuring IETF and IESG trends) > > On 2008-07-02 09:07, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > > Of course, we also get complaints whenever anyone raises an issue > > without providing text. So, by a strict reading of the > argument, the > > AD is hanged if he provides text (directing the working group) and > > hanged if he does not provide text (you didn't make clear what your > > problem is, and how to fix it.) > > There is, I think a big difference between an AD writing > > (a) "Here is the fix for my problem" > and > (b) "Here is my proposal for one way to fix this issue; there > may of course be other ways to do so, so please let me know > what the WG prefers to do." > > But that takes time to type in, and an overloaded AD (or > reviewer) will be very tempted just to write "Suggested fix:". > > Maybe we should assign specific (b) semantics to SUGGESTION > and use that as shorthand? > > Brian > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf