Harald Alvestrand wrote: > Eric Rescorla wrote: >> At Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:17:47 -0600, >> Randy Presuhn wrote: >> >>> Our ADs worked very hard to prevent us from talking about technology >>> choices at the CANMOD BOF. Our original proposal for consensus >>> hums included getting a of sense of preferences among the various >>> proposals. We were told we could *not* ask these questions, for fear >>> of upsetting Eric Rescorla. >>> >> Well, it's certainly true that the terms--agreed to by the IESG and >> the IAB--on which the BOF were held were that there not be a beauty >> contest at the BOF but that there first be a showing that there was >> consensus to do work in this area at all. I'm certainly willing to cop >> to being one of the people who argued for that, but I was far >> from the only one. If you want to blame me for that, go ahead. >> >> In any case, now that consensus to do *something* has been >> established it is the appropriate time to have discussion on >> the technology. I certainly never imagined that just because >> there weren't hums taken in PHL that that meant no hums would >> ever be taken. > It's been a month since PHL. > > The IETF's supposed to be able to work on mailing lists between > meetings, including being able to work when no WG exists - which of > course means working on mailing lists that are not WG lists. > Agreed -- this also means that the 'technical approach' straw poll that did not occur in the CANMOD BoF is not really that important, since final consensus needs to be confirmed on a designated mailing list. > I congratulate the participants who worked on the charter on managing to > have the discussion and come to consensus on an approach. I think it's > up to Eric to demonstrate to the IESG that there's support in the > community for disagreeing with the consensus of the discussing participants. +1 15 person (large!) design team. 1000s of emails. Done in a month. This is more effort than most WGs can muster. > > Harald Andy _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf