Eric Rescorla wrote: > At Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:17:47 -0600, > Randy Presuhn wrote: > >> Our ADs worked very hard to prevent us from talking about technology >> choices at the CANMOD BOF. Our original proposal for consensus >> hums included getting a of sense of preferences among the various >> proposals. We were told we could *not* ask these questions, for fear >> of upsetting Eric Rescorla. >> > > Well, it's certainly true that the terms--agreed to by the IESG and > the IAB--on which the BOF were held were that there not be a beauty > contest at the BOF but that there first be a showing that there was > consensus to do work in this area at all. I'm certainly willing to cop > to being one of the people who argued for that, but I was far > from the only one. If you want to blame me for that, go ahead. > > In any case, now that consensus to do *something* has been > established it is the appropriate time to have discussion on > the technology. I certainly never imagined that just because > there weren't hums taken in PHL that that meant no hums would > ever be taken. It's been a month since PHL. The IETF's supposed to be able to work on mailing lists between meetings, including being able to work when no WG exists - which of course means working on mailing lists that are not WG lists. I congratulate the participants who worked on the charter on managing to have the discussion and come to consensus on an approach. I think it's up to Eric to demonstrate to the IESG that there's support in the community for disagreeing with the consensus of the discussing participants. Harald _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf