Dear Ray; I support these changes. I have one nit. On Apr 10, 2008, at 9:21 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > The Trustees have considered the comments from the list and propose > the following amended revisions to the Trust Administrative > Procedures. The Trustees propose to take action at its April 17th > meeting and will consider all comments received by that date. > > 2. The Trustees shall select one Trustee to serve as the Chair of > the Trust. > > a. The following Trustees are not eligible to serve as IETF Chair: > 1. ISOC President > 2. IAB Chair > 3. IETF Chair > 4. ISOC IAOC Appointee > 5. IAD > > b. The term of the Trust Chair shall be one year from the time of > selection or the remaining time of his or her tenure as a Trustee, > whichever is less. An individual may serve any number of terms as > Chair, if selected by the Trustees. > > c. The Chair serves at the pleasure of the Trustees and may be > removed from that position at any time by a vote of 2/3 of the > voting Trustees, not counting the Trust Chair. > > d. The Chair shall convene and preside over meetings of the Trustees > but shall have no other powers or authority beyond his or her powers > as a Trustee. If the Trust Chair is not available, then any other > Trustee may convene or preside over meetings of the Trustees in the > absence of the Trust Chair. > 4. The Trust Agreement defines the quorum and voting rules for a > meeting. Motions passed by electronic means between meetings shall > be confirmed by a vote at the next possible meeting. > > 12. The Trustees are the current members of the IAOC. I would prefer simply "The Trustees are current members of the IAOC." as IAOC members who have not agreed in writing to become a Trustee are not. Regards Marshall > When a member leaves the IAOC for whatever reason, he or she ceases > to be a Trustee. When a new member joins the IAOC, he or she becomes > a Trustee upon his or her agreement in writing to fulfill the duties > of a Trustee, as specified in the Trust Agreement. > > a. If at any time the IAOC ceases to exist, or there are fewer than > three Trustees, then the IESG, or its successor, shall appoint > Trustees in accordance with Article VI of the Trust Agreement. > > Ray > > Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> >> On 2008-04-10 07:04, John C Klensin wrote: >> >>> --On Wednesday, 09 April, 2008 13:50 -0400 Ed Juskevicius >>> <edj@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> John, you wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Then recommend to the community that the Trust Agreement be >>>>> changed. >>>>> >>>> The Trustees are not talking about changing the terms of the >>>> Trust Agreement, so this should not be necessary. >>>> >>> Good. But I was just trying to suggest, following what I >>> thought I saw in Marshall's note, that, if the Trust Agreement >>> is defective, one could try to change it. The other option is >>> to conform to it. Ignoring it and adopting procedures or >>> polices inconsistent with it --even if one believes those >>> policies will never be triggered-- is a non-starter. >>> >>> >>>>> I am worried about the IAOC and/or Trustees adopting >>>>> procedures that are inconsistent with the Trust Agreement. >>>>> >>>> Me too! It is not the intention of the Trustees to adopt >>>> procedures that are inconsistent with the Trust Agreement. >>>> >>>> >>>>> if anything is going to be said, it needs to be consistent >>>>> with the Trust Agreement _and_ reflect the desires and intent >>>>> of the community. >>>>> >>>> I agree. >>>> >>> I think we are in synch. >>> >> I agree with the above, and I assure everybody that the intent >> was always exactly that. There's definitely an error in the way >> the current procedures were drafted; it was my error, and I have >> evry confidence that the current Trustees will fix it. >> >> Brian >> _______________________________________________ >> IETF mailing list >> IETF@xxxxxxxx >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > IETF mailing list > IETF@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf