Folks, I spent the last five days listening to the debates on the nomcom candidate confirmation process and the proposals to fix the process. As much as possible, I tried to stay away from the debates so I can carefully listen, understand and reflect. It appears that opinions on the causes ranged from 'everyone messed up' to 'everyone did the right thing, under the circumstances.' After listening to the many opinions, I further thought about the proceedings of the past 9 months and reflected on what went wrong. Next, I went back and reread various notes and emails. Andrew, this year's nomcom adviser, sent an email to me on July 24, 2007, titled "Notes to next-year's chair" in which he said the following confirmation process: "I'll be happy to chat about the confirmation process well ahead of time so you know what to expect." We had that conversation in Chicago, and I recall Andrew noting that there were difficulties in the confirmation process with the IAB, and that he'll help out when the time comes. I recall noting that I will be extra careful in ensuring that we do all the due diligence in candidate selection and in preparation of testimony. However, I stopped there; in retrospect I should have exhibited more common sense and curiosity and asked Andrew more questions. But, I did not do that! I guess I can think of many excuses, but after all, I accepted the position and clearly did not do a good job. I can never explain how hard it is for me to say this, but I am sorry for my mistake. I know I made at least one more mistake in running the process. I think it is unfair to blame the entire nomcom in this case. The volunteer voting members deserve the thanks and appreciation that the community at large showed them at the plenaries last week, but none of the blame. Please direct any blame on the nomcom at me. I accepted the position of chairing this nomcom and the mistake of not catching this issue early enough is mine. So, what should we do now? First, I don't believe what Harald has suggested is the right direction. I believe that the IAB's interpretation of 3777 on the matter of the confirmation process sets a dangerous precedence whereby one of the confirming bodies could require that the nomcom provide (samples of) verbatim feedback. One could interpret the same text that the IAB cites -- all information and any means acceptable to them -- as being in support of that requirement as well. The community tends to express their lack of confidence in the process by not participating, for instance, not volunteering or not providing feedback. So, what is the best direction? I think a revision to 3777 is in fact needed. There are at least three things to do: 1. Define the roles and responsibilities of the people and the bodies involved in the process, more clearly. 2. Define the expectations on the confidentiality of the information collected. 3. Specify the nature information sharing within the nomcom process. Once we arrive at consensus conclusions on those, state those and revise 3777 to delete text that is inconsistent with those conclusions. Unlike other parts of our process, nomcoms are under hard time constraints and much of the work happens in secrecy. We are already late for any revision to be useful for the next nomcom. thanks, Lakshminath _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf