Re: IONs & discuss criteria

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I believe Sam's discuss cover the issues I was concerned about and I  
have removed my discuss.


On Mar 6, 2008, at 2:57 PM, Lakshminath Dondeti wrote:

> Sam,
>
> There is no need to prolong this particular side of the discussion  
> now that Cullen clarified his position.  But, I have to say that  
> this thread is but one example that we often don't clearly  
> understand each other's positions.
>
> You interpret Cullen's DISCUSS as :  "I think it's reasonable for  
> Cullen to say "I
> agree with that other discuss," and that's how I interpret his  
> current position. "
>
> Cullen clarifies it as: "I believe the editor pretty much  
> understands the issue and if I get requests to please rewrite to be  
> a reasonable discuss, I'm glad to do that after the meeting. "
>
> Most of the IESG members' names have four letters or less :).  It is  
> not very hard to type "Agree with XXXX" even if someone is in a hurry.
>
> Next, I can't read Steffen and Dragan's minds, and so I don't know  
> what their understanding of the issue is and whether they understand  
> it as Cullen agreeing with the other discuss or something else.
>
> At this point, we have that additional step of saying "please  
> rewrite your discuss to be a reasonable discuss."  It looks like my  
> interpretation was right that I have to beg for clarification to go  
> forward here.
>
> best,
> Lakshminath
>
> On 3/6/2008 2:32 PM, Sam Hartman wrote:
>>>>>>> "Lakshminath" == Lakshminath Dondeti <ldondeti@xxxxxxxxxxxx>  
>>>>>>> writes:
>>    Lakshminath> Sam,
>>    Lakshminath> I fail to understand why this has to be a guessing  
>> game.  I also don't
>>    Lakshminath> understand the argument about resolving DISCUSSes  
>> sequentially (in
>>    Lakshminath> reference to your point about Cullen holding his  
>> DISCUSS beyond
>>    Lakshminath> resolution of Russ's).
>> I guess I was unclear.  I think it's reasonable for Cullen to say "I
>> agree with that other discuss," and that's how I interpret his  
>> current
>> position.  I think it's kind of odd for him to stick that in the
>> discuss box rather than the comment box, but I don't think it is
>> particularly harmful provided that his discuss never blocks the
>> document.  I.E. he needs to make sure his discuss is removed before
>> Russ clears.
>> Put another way, it's fine for Cullen to tell other IESG members that
>> he agrees with a discuss.  It's fine for him to agree so strongly  
>> that
>> he'd like to be given an opportunity to take on the discuss if for
>> example the person holding the discuss gives up and wants to drop the
>> issue.  It's not fine for him to expect you to do anything based on a
>> discuss that vague.  It's not fine for his inaction to cause your
>> document to get stuck based on a discuss that vague.

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