On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 11:30:54PM -0800, David Kessens wrote: > > No, I don't think I missed Phillip's point at all. Some engineers are > apparently more creative than others in their ability to reach the > mothership over an ipv6 only network despite the fact that the > mothership doesn't have ipv6 vpn support (yet). This certainly hasn't > stopped me from connecting back to the company that I work for and it > should not stop any competent engineer. So how about getting people to work together to document workarounds on a wiki run by the IETF? The point is if we want IPv6 to be successful we have bootstrap it by eliminating excuses. VPN access is merely the latest excuse, and it won't be the last one, either. :-) The point here is to have an engineering approach to fixing problems, by whatever means necessary. Even if the initial solutions are accomplished with bailing wire and duct tape, that's OK. They can always be fixed up later. - Ted _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf