>>>>> "Tony" == Tony Hain <alh-ietf@xxxxxxxx> writes: Tony> the right experiment. It is not right because it does Tony> nothing positive, other than the threat -maybe- spurring Tony> some action. A more realistic experiment would be to run the Tony> entire week with a double-nat for IPv4 (and nats between the Tony> access points to simulate consumer-to-consumer Tony> configurations), where the most public one has absolutely no Tony> provision for punching holes (because realistically an ISP Tony> is not going to punch inbound holes for its customers, or Tony> allow them to). I strongly support this experiment and believe it would be a really good idea to run. I do think behave-compatible nats should be used, but besides that, I think the experiment you propose is far more valuable than the v6-only experiment. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf